diff --git a/bot/exts/help_channels/_channel.py b/bot/exts/help_channels/_channel.py
index 6a0c3264cf..4e65d93799 100644
--- a/bot/exts/help_channels/_channel.py
+++ b/bot/exts/help_channels/_channel.py
@@ -47,9 +47,6 @@ async def _close_help_post(
     scheduler: scheduling.Scheduler,
 ) -> None:
     """Close the help post and record stats."""
-    # Get Thread with updated metadata (such as the title)
-    closed_post = await get_or_fetch_channel(bot.instance, closed_post.id)
-
     embed = discord.Embed(description=CLOSED_POST_MSG)
     close_title = "Python help channel closed"
     if closing_reason == _stats.ClosingReason.CLEANUP:
@@ -192,10 +189,11 @@ async def get_closing_time(post: discord.Thread) -> tuple[arrow.Arrow, _stats.Cl
     return time, _stats.ClosingReason.INACTIVE
 
 
-async def maybe_archive_idle_post(post: discord.Thread, scheduler: scheduling.Scheduler) -> None:
+async def maybe_archive_idle_post(post_id: int, scheduler: scheduling.Scheduler) -> None:
     """Archive the `post` if idle, or schedule the archive for later if still active."""
     try:
-        await get_or_fetch_channel(bot.instance, post.id)
+        # Fetch the post again, to ensure we have the latest info
+        post = await get_or_fetch_channel(bot.instance, post_id)
     except discord.HTTPException:
         log.trace(f"Not closing missing post #{post} ({post.id}).")
         return
@@ -223,4 +221,4 @@ async def maybe_archive_idle_post(post: discord.Thread, scheduler: scheduling.Sc
     delay = (closing_time - arrow.utcnow()).seconds
     log.info(f"#{post} ({post.id}) is still active; scheduling it to be archived after {delay} seconds.")
 
-    scheduler.schedule_later(delay, post.id, maybe_archive_idle_post(post, scheduler))
+    scheduler.schedule_later(delay, post.id, maybe_archive_idle_post(post.id, scheduler))
diff --git a/bot/exts/help_channels/_cog.py b/bot/exts/help_channels/_cog.py
index 9db66bb393..5e0b1799fd 100644
--- a/bot/exts/help_channels/_cog.py
+++ b/bot/exts/help_channels/_cog.py
@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ async def check_all_open_posts_have_close_task(self) -> None:
         """Check that each open help post has a scheduled task to close, adding one if not."""
         for post in self.help_forum_channel.threads:
             if post.id not in self.scheduler:
-                await _channel.maybe_archive_idle_post(post, self.scheduler)
+                await _channel.maybe_archive_idle_post(post.id, self.scheduler)
 
     async def close_check(self, ctx: commands.Context) -> bool:
         """Return True if the channel is a help post, and the user is the claimant or has a whitelisted role."""
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ async def new_post_listener(self, message: discord.Message) -> None:
         self.scheduler.schedule_later(
             delay,
             thread.id,
-            _channel.maybe_archive_idle_post(thread, self.scheduler)
+            _channel.maybe_archive_idle_post(thread.id, self.scheduler)
         )
 
     @commands.Cog.listener()