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[Feature Request]: The character's personal safe in the Gillian vault #7774

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Maderator3000 opened this issue Feb 21, 2025 · 6 comments
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It is often very annoying that a character does not have his own safe deposit box in the Gillian vault, and this is especially true for gold. It was like in Diablo II Resurrected, and everyone had their own gold.

@Maderator3000 Maderator3000 added the enhancement New feature or request label Feb 21, 2025
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What is the suggestion here, exactly? You can use --save-dir to point to another folder that has no stash. Do you need a way to be able to access the items in your stash while at the same time not having access to stash gold? I'm not sure if that really makes sense. The way I see it, you either want to share stuff with your other characters or you don't.

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What is the suggestion here, exactly? You can use --save-dir to point to another folder that has no stash. Do you need a way to be able to access the items in your stash while at the same time not having access to stash gold? I'm not sure if that really makes sense. The way I see it, you either want to share stuff with your other characters or you don't.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me like the request here is to isolate "current character gold" from "shared stash gold", allowing you to still store gold with Gillian but not have it necessarily participate in the pool of shared gold. If so, it is a sensible request to me.

Of course, it would mean more complicated UI and mechanics as you'd need to have a way to move gold from your "character stash" to the "shared pool" and vice-versa, and gold on the stash would have to work differently when interacting with vendors (vendors would only "see" the gold from the current character).

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  • On what basis do you suppose it would be sensible to expect that items should be shared but gold should not be?
  • Under what circumstances would I want to strictly control which of the golds I have found should be used by which of my characters, but not the items I bought with that gold?
  • How exactly is it a problem that the game forces you to spend extra effort when making purchases, but somehow it's not a problem to have to spend extra effort managing your gold storage?

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  • On what basis do you suppose it would be sensible to expect that items should be shared but gold should not be?

I just think it makes sense to have a personal and a shared area in the stash mechanism. I believe that's what D2R ended up doing but I might be wrong as I've not played that.

On a personal level, I would like to have a per-character isolated area in the stash as I don't usually like sharing things across characters, but at the same time I do want to be able to store items/gold etc.

  • Under what circumstances would I want to strictly control which of the golds I have found should be used by which of my characters, but not the items I bought with that gold?

I would apply it to both: have an area in the stash that is character-specific for both items and gold.

  • How exactly is it a problem that the game forces you to spend extra effort when making purchases, but somehow it's not a problem to have to spend extra effort managing your gold storage?

I admit I did not get your question here. What extra effort are you referring to (on both occasions)? Can you elaborate?

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On a personal level, I would like to have a per-character isolated area in the stash as I don't usually like sharing things across characters, but at the same time I do want to be able to store items/gold etc.

If you'd like to keep both items and gold isolated between characters, you can use --save-dir to give each character their own save folder and therefore their own stash. It's a little bit more cumbersome to change characters and and a lot more cumbersome to transfer items to a shared storage pool, but it works okay for the specific purpose of keeping each character's bounties isolated.

I don't deny there may be justification for making this type of thing easier. Android, for example, can't use the --save-dir parameter at all. However, the current approach may serve as a solution or workaround for Maderator3000's issue, if we can figure out what that is. In that case, we could either close the issue, keep it open for a more complete solution, or pivot to your interpretation of the issue. Regardless, whatever we come up with should take into account Maderator3000's use case, since he is the one who brought up the issue in the first place.

I admit I did not get your question here. What extra effort are you referring to (on both occasions)? Can you elaborate?

Keep in mind, I was basing this question on your first response to this post, which was entirely focused on having personal and shared pools for gold storage. Since you didn't mention personal and shared item pools at the time, I was under the impression that you thought it was reasonable to simply change how stashed gold works without consideration for items.

Currently, if you have a character who is not allowed to use shared gold, you can simply use the stash for items and keep your gold on you. Assuming that you have other characters who are not restricted from using shared gold, you'd have to be vigilant to ensure that you don't buy anything outside your price range because that would draw gold from your stash. This is what I meant by extra effort when making purchases. That said, I didn't entirely consider the fact that you'd be using up inventory space to hold onto the gold, so that is a potential knock against this approach.

If we implement both shared and personal pools for gold, then you'd naturally have to put in more effort to make sure your gold is getting placed in the appropriate storage locations. You may also end up having additional gold management tasks such as transferring chunks of gold between shared and personal pools and keeping track of how much gold you have in each of your characters' personal pools. This is what I meant by extra effort managing your gold storage.

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I would apply it to both: have an area in the stash that is character-specific for both items and gold.

That's what I meant - a separate stash for each character, which applies to both items and gold.

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