KiBot renders, KiCad does not?

[gcormier]

KiCad does not have a 3D model for the ESP32-S2. The 3D preview in KiCad

Yet when I push it to GitHub and my GH action runs, it manages to render it with the model! (A missing polyfuse model as well)

I mean, super happy about that.. but.. where is KiBot getting the model from? My pipeline even has this in the log

WARNING:(W048) Failed to download `[https://gitlab.com/kicad/libraries/kicad-packages3D/-/raw/master/RF_Module.3dshapes/ESP32-S2-WROVER.wrl`](https://gitlab.com/kicad/libraries/kicad-packages3D/-/raw/master/RF_Module.3dshapes/ESP32-S2-WROVER.wrl%60) (kibot - out_base_3d.py:115)

[set-soft]

Hi @gcormier !

Do you have LCSC codes in your components? KiBot can also download 3D models from EasyEDA, courtesy of LCSC

[gcormier]

I want to nudge this again as I've run into the same issue.

Blue is a local STEP file. White is fetched by KiBot from JLC with a bad rotation that I can't fix.

I still think it would be useful to tell KiBot not to download some models from LCSC.

[set-soft]

You can disable 3D models download.

[gcormier]

I could not find any documentation on how to disable LCSC model download.

[set-soft]

It applies to both KiCad and LCSC.

If you have 2 models in the footprint and don't want to get the LCSC model downloaded just rename it to something invalid.

I don't fully understand why you can't control the rotation, you can do it in the 3D model options, just use the same 3D model. Also: why don't you name both models using the same name (not path, just file name)?

I'm adding an option, but I strongly discourage relying on the KiCad 3D models from outside the project (not self contained projects) for any project that isn't trivial. I also strongly discourage relying on KiCad failing to render a missing model instead of just removing it from the list.

[gcormier]

If you have 2 models in the footprint and don't want to get the LCSC model downloaded just rename it to something invalid.

Not sure I understand. If there are zero 3D models defined, doesn't KiBot use the LCSC field to find and download the 3D model?

I strongly discourage relying on the KiCad 3D models from outside the project (not self contained projects)

This is what is done in this case - the KiCad model does not exist. I added a 2nd model locally with the STEP from the manufacturer. Deleting the 1st non-existant model did not affect the screenshot above. Just as you recommend not relying on KiCad 3d models externally, I also prefer not to rely on LCSC models. As a librarian I have more confidence in KiCad libraries then LCSC. Also, we are having a lot of manufacturers start to contribute their footprints and models to the library which is very nice :)

[set-soft]

If you have 2 models in the footprint and don't want to get the LCSC model downloaded just rename it to something invalid.

Not sure I understand. If there are zero 3D models defined, doesn't KiBot use the LCSC field to find and download the 3D model?

Nope. KiBot will try to download a model only if you specify it and the file can't be found. If you have zero models you won't get a missing file.

I strongly discourage relying on the KiCad 3D models from outside the project (not self contained projects)

This is what is done in this case - the KiCad model does not exist. I added a 2nd model locally with the STEP from the manufacturer. Deleting the 1st non-existant model did not affect the screenshot above.

Review this or post an example that shows a case where ONE model forces TWO models.

Just as you recommend not relying on KiCad 3d models externally, I also prefer not to rely on LCSC models. As a librarian I have more confidence in KiCad libraries then LCSC. Also, we are having a lot of manufacturers start to contribute their footprints and models to the library which is very nice :)

If you include all the listed models in your project nothing will be downloaded.

[gcormier]

Ok I see what is happening now.

For a given component, if any model fails to resolve, kibot will not look at the condition/status of other models, it will perform an LCSC download. By removing the default (missing) KiCad reference, KiBit now no longer attempts the LCSC download.

My preference remains. If KiCad ever adds a 3D model down the road, with the current workflow, I will not be aware since I've deleted the reference. If they some day add a model, then I will likely notice this if I'm still making revisions as all of a sudden my 3D preview will (likely) look a bit off since the model is unlikely to be identical to the manufacturer model.